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Post by Kimmmmm; on May 1, 2009 21:33:43 GMT 1
Its kim.. I think Edgar the atheling should of been king because despite the fact that he was only 10 years old, he was actually the rightful heir to the throne,before King Edward The Confessor died he had already sorted out that Edgar The Atheling and his father always had a claim on having the throne.. However, Of course Edgars father would be crowned before him, His father died in suspicious circumstances in 1054, and then ovbiously this then passed the opportunity down to Edgar as he was the only clostest blood relative alive at the time. I know that Edgar never had the support of the Witan and that no one really took him seriously because of his age being so young compared the others but he really was the rightful heir to the throne so therefore i reckon he should of had been crowned king of England in 1066. And it wasnt just his age that stopped him being king, he apparently was powerless to enforce his claim which i think is totally unfair because no one is perfect and look at all the other people we have had king they were right mingers some of them and i just think that Edgar the atheling should of had the claim because he would be a great king starting from a young age just to prove that you don't have to be old to be a king as long as he did great deeds and looked after his kingdom he would of been fine so i truely do think Edgar The Atheling was the one.
Wa-hayy thankyou. *Bows*
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Post by shadow443 on May 3, 2009 16:32:15 GMT 1
I think William Duke of Normandy should have become king following reasons: Firstly,William made Harold Godwinson swear at loyalty to him over the bones of a saint so he could not possibly be King Secondly, Harald Hardrara he was not in any way related to Edward the Confessor himself. Which was not the case with William Duke of Normandy as his great aunt – Emma – was in fact mother to Edward the Confessor. Finally Pope himself actually backed William Duke of Normandy to be king which I think is the biggest claim he had on the throne. So these are the reasons that I think William had the best claim on the throne. James
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Post by Dodo Gravy Gecko on May 3, 2009 17:47:10 GMT 1
I think that Edgar is the rightful heir to the throne and has the prospect of being as great as his great great... grandfather alfred the great. he may not have the watin on his side. and he may be young (10 to be exact) but who cares he is the rightful leader of england and will be great as (if not greater than) Alfred the great. The prospect of a new young king was fantastic for allthose who believed in him. not only because of his new adapt way of looking at things, but we could see this kingdom ruled by our little leaders for once.
Who knows. we could have an edgar the great. this one was by joe
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Post by JAB on May 4, 2009 11:29:51 GMT 1
I think that Harold Gowinson had the best claim to the throne mainly because he was promised it by Edward on his death bed. The fact that he was English and that he was already established here is just another reason why he should be King. Another reason why I think Harold should be King is because all of his competetors would all maike terrible leaders because: Edgar the Aethling was way to young and if he took the throne then it would probably result in England being invaded (by more people) and he would probably loose control pretty quickly. Also other people wouldn't be scared to take what they wanted from England because not many people are scared of a 10 year old boy this would've resulted in the people of England being very unhappy and probably wanting a new king. Harald already had a kingdom and wasn't too popular there so having two countries hating him instead of one isn't a good thing. This could also lead to England being invaded because if you have two places to run you can't be defending both at the same time. Finally William, his biggest claim was that Harold had promised him the throne. I do not doubt that Harold had but I believe the fact that William had his sword against Harold neck had something to do with the fact that he said that he could have the throne. Eventually I think Williams reign would come to an end if he ruled England becuase after all he was just another invader and what England really needed was a true English king. Josh Boyes
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Post by JAB on May 4, 2009 11:30:19 GMT 1
P.S I hope it makes sense :s
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Post by JAB on May 4, 2009 11:30:50 GMT 1
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Post by Kimmmmm; on May 4, 2009 12:47:38 GMT 1
Knowing you it probably doesnt make sense - Kim
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Post by john on May 4, 2009 12:50:49 GMT 1
I agree with josh B.. the rest of you are just terrible! Harold Godwinson had the best claim because Edward the Confessor told him to king on his death bed. He also was the son of a very important and powerful noble, and has had experience because he was already involved in running the country. He was the brother of Edward's wife (his brother-in-law). He was also actually English ... unlike some of the other competitors ... and very popular among the public. -He was probably handsome as well! Furthermore, we must not forget that he had the support of the Witan on his side too, and that he had involvement with the army and government.
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Post by john on May 4, 2009 13:06:10 GMT 1
Its a mass conspiracy!!
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Post by Dodo Gravy Gecko on May 4, 2009 17:28:54 GMT 1
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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Post by Mr P J Lee on May 4, 2009 18:48:25 GMT 1
Some very astute pieces of analysis so far. Well done to everyone who has voted and for their opinions.
Remember History matters, pass it on!
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Post by JAB on May 4, 2009 20:46:29 GMT 1
thanx john for sticking up 4 me the rest of u r all wrong. GO Z FACTOR.
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Post by Rawr on May 5, 2009 0:10:11 GMT 1
The homework about writing 2 speech paragraphs between Simon Cowell and your chosen claimant is due for tomorrow, ja?
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Post by Hassan on May 5, 2009 16:43:41 GMT 1
The homework about writing 2 speech paragraphs between Simon Cowell and your chosen claimant is due for tomorrow, ja? Thanks Ash you just told me what I needed to do
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Post by luke on May 5, 2009 17:04:56 GMT 1
Hi it's the new boy :-) I think that Harold Godwonson should be King because he is the only real Englishman. Edgar is too young to rule properl, he would just become a puppet. His sister was married to the old king, so he has a better blood claim than anyone else, better than even William, who is Edwards cousin. He Actually got pronounced king by Edward the Confessor, which means he has been offically pronounced to be the next king. He has good leadership experience because he has ruled the south for ages and fought many wars for the old king. William Duke of Normandy is Edward's cousin and Harold aledgedly said he would help him to become he next king, but this fact could only be a half-truth, for only Williams soldiers where present to hear this. The Normans are desended from Vikings who settled in France. Edward owes them from his saftey when he fled England from Canute. William, however, is not British and so will not be popular with the people. Harald Hardrada was the King of Normandy, and was a Viking. He is an extremly good fighter and wins most of his wars. He had a weak bloodline to Canute, and he though that that gave him an excuse to envade the country. He was, though, very unpopular and could only afford his wars through heavy taxes. He would also have a problem governing two kingdoms that where quite far apart. That is why I think harold should be King
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